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MTL - Three Kingdoms-Chapter 2816 Two points and three points are all plans, Sun and Zhou have a small discussion
Chapter 2816 Two points and three points are all plans, Sun and Zhou have a small discussion
Just when Huang Gai and Zhu Huan really started to join hands to strangle Nanman Shanyue, at Zhou Yu's place, Sun Quan was listening to Zhou Yu's teaching seriously.
Zhou Yu tried to teach him more than once in the past, but Sun Quan always felt that Zhou Yu had ulterior motives, and his purpose was not so pure. But now, after seeing Zhou Yu like a candle in the wind, Sun Quan was really relieved and willing to calm down and listen.
Sun Quan is not stupid, he is much smarter than ordinary people, but his wisdom is not top-notch. In terms of grades, it should be about second-rate. This is on the whole. After all, most of Sun Quan's ingenuity was used in politics, and he even used his own son as a bargaining chip. This is one of the reasons why later generations have always criticized Sun Zha.
Sun Quan's suspicion is not much smaller than Cao Cao's. In fact, anyone who has been in politics for a long time will have some suspicions. After all, those who are easy to trust others and have no suspicion, most of them will not live long.
Sun Quan's suspicion originated from the death of Sun Ce.
Compared to the death of Sun Jian, the death of Sun Ce is indeed an abnormal death.
The abnormality here does not refer to the life expectancy of a person himself, or to take care of his life, but to say that Sun Jian died on the battlefield, which is a common way of death for generals. Whether it died in Liu Biao's hands, Fei Qian's ambush, or in a battle with other princes, besides providing an excuse to send troops, Sun Quan actually didn't have much to say about Sun Jian's death. real resentment. It's like Mrs. Wu knew that Sun Jian's death was related to Fei Qian, and she also said that she used a villain to **** needles every day to curse or something, because everyone knew that when she went into battle, her head was tied to her belt, and it might fall off at any time .
Sun Ce's death is what makes people feel unwilling.
Sun Ce was assassinated to death, and it was precisely because of Sun Ce's death that the Sun family was about to fall apart in a blink of an eye. The relatives and friends in the past seemed to be plotting against each other, which made Sun Quan start to doubt everyone around him, including Zhou Yu.
It's very simple, because if Sun Ce died, Zhou Yu could directly command and command almost all the troops at that time, and the choice of the heir of the Sun family was almost determined by Zhou Yu.
Although Sun Quan finally took the position of Lord of Jiangdong, Sun Quan would inevitably think in the dead of night, what if Zhou Yu was talking about another name? So now in Wangjiang Terrace, is it Sun Quan himself who is imprisoned?
Stupid people naturally don't think about anything. Sun Quan is not stupid, but he is only smart, not wise enough.
『You used to be very irritable, so you can’t see some things far away. 』Zhou Yu said it very bluntly, he didn't cooperate with Sun Quan's serious attitude to say some words that would look bright, but in fact they didn't have any effect.
Zhou Yu is still very straightforward. After all, now, no matter in terms of his own physical condition or the current relationship between the two people, simple and straightforward is the most effective, "The reason for being irritable is because you are in a hurry. 』
These words, if Zhou Yu before, would not have said so clearly.
Because at that time, Sun Quan would not listen.
And now...
Sun Quan was silent for a moment, then nodded, "Just as the governor said. 』
Zhou Yu raised his head slightly, feeling a little bit emotional, "I didn't like it before...but now, I can understand...you are afraid." 』
Sun Quan remained silent for a longer time before slowly nodding his head, "Indeed. 』
Zhou Yu smiled slightly, "It's nothing...I'm afraid too. Not only now, but every time I go to the battlefield, I am afraid. Fear of death, fear of inadvertent negligence, and the entire army will be defeated, fear of improper command, putting the friendly army at a disadvantage, and causing damage to the soldiers...』
"Captain...you..." Sun Quan was stunned.
In Sun Quan's impression, Zhou Yu should be a person who is personable, stable and orderly at all times. How could he be afraid?
『Brother Bofu was assassinated and died...』 Zhou Yu did not continue the previous topic, "Do you know why Cao Mengde and Fei Ziyuan are fighting endlessly and it is difficult to reconcile, but they didn't send assassins to each other to assassinate each other?" 』
Sun Quan replied: "Or... is not in accordance with the rules? 』
『Then…』Zhou Yu asked again,『What are the rules? 』
『The rule is...』Sun Quan said subconsciously, but after blurting out, he found that this question was not so easy to answer, 『An agreement that needs to be followed? 』
Zhou Yu hummed softly, he didn't seem too satisfied with Sun Quan's answer, but he didn't show much dislike, "Then Brother Bofu...why isn't there such a rule anymore? 』
『…』Sun Quan could not answer.
『It is said that Hussars were also assassinated when they first arrived in Chang'an. Zhou Yu suddenly smiled, "I sent someone to do it once... Prime Minister Cao sent someone to do it again..."
"ah? 』Sun Quan was stunned, and then his eyes moved slightly.
『Of course, you also sent someone...』 Zhou Yu gave Sun Quan a sideways glance.
Sun Quan didn't know whether he should smile in embarrassment at the moment, or deny that the matter was false, but in the end Sun Quan didn't say anything.
"Now..." Zhou Yu shook his head slightly, as if he was feeling something, "I didn't send anyone to do such a thing anymore... It's not that Cao Fei and Fei are guarded when they go in and out, but it's different. It's... know what's different? In the early days, Yuan Gonglu sent people to assassinate Cao Mengde, and Yuan Benchu sent people to assassinate Lu Fengxian...Why was it possible at that time, but not now? 』
This time Zhou Yu didn't wait for Sun Quan's answer, but said directly, "If we send Pao Ding to slaughter some pigs, sheep, cattle and dogs, will we say hello to the pigs, sheep, cattle and dogs, or do we have any guilt?" Pigs and sheep stopped on the road and were killed, so they were killed. And now it’s not pigs, sheep, cattle and dogs, but…”
Zhou Yu patted the table next to him, "The person who sits with the same case..."
Sun Quan thought for a while.
"Yuan Gonglu initially regarded Cao Mengde as a lackey, but Yuan Benchu thought that Lu Fengxian was suspected of being a vicious dog devouring his master..." Zhou Yu said, "Fei Ziyuan was in the cold for a while, but his traces were small...just like Bo Fu's brother Fang Li Jiangdong...so Not at the table...that's the rule. 』
Some people may worship dogs as ancestors or owners, but in most people's minds, dogs are just dogs.
During the period of Emperor Ling of the Han Dynasty, when the gentry Gao surnamed ruled the Han Dynasty, whether it was a Xiliang warrior or a Jiangdong brave soldier, in the perception of those people, they were all dogs. Therefore, after Dong Zhuo took control of the court, the people in Shandong couldn't understand, couldn't accept it, and even felt extremely angry that they were bitten by a dog.
Yuan Shao and Yuan Shu are the same, four generations and three princes, they think that they are the master of the big man, and the others are dogs.
Until one day...
Shangshutai divided things.
Qinglong Temple started a serious solution.
People in the world began to look in the direction guided by Fei Qian...
No one would dare to say that Guan Zhong is a dog.
Because if they still say that, aren’t they even worse than dogs?
And you have to copy dog things, isn't it more dog than dog?
They began to scold Fei Qian for overreaching, talking about Fei Qian's cruelty, slander and abuse, etc., but no one blindly wanted to do assassination anymore.
Because from a certain moment, Fei Qian was already an opponent, a good player who could sit at the table and play cards. People on the edge of the poker table are more willing to crush their opponents within the rules of the poker table, rather than simply destroying their opponents physically, because this will only prove that their methods are wrong, which will make them lose their strength in the future. If you lose the qualification to sit at the poker table, you will be jointly suppressed by other poker players.
This is a change in concept and a political rule.
"Brother Gongjin..." Sun Quan frowned slightly, "So, brother..."
Zhou Yu sighed, "I was young back then..."
Between Zhou Yu's eyebrows and eyes, Zhou Yu looked lonely, and he always regretted not persuading Sun Ce to do certain things at that time.
Who knows what a poker table is right from the start?
Who knows what the rules are?
Zhou Yu glanced at the pensive Sun Quan, and then turned his gaze to the sky.
Sun Quan is indeed listening and thinking, but he may not really understand at the moment.
Zhou Yu once thought that he would have time to take his time, teach slowly, and change slowly, but now it seems that no matter from which aspect, he is running out of time.
Now we can only talk about how much we count, and teach as much as we understand.
Do your best to express some meaning.
This is actually quite normal, Sun Quan has changed a lot now, but Sun Quan has not said that the degree of obedience and submissiveness. Sun Quan glanced at Zhou Yu, immediately realized that there seemed to be something wrong with him, and quickly apologized to Zhou Yu.
Zhou Yu smiled, waved his hands, or aroused his lungs, and coughed again.
Sun Quan hurriedly asked his attendant to deliver Tang Yin, and delivered it beside him, not like a lord, but like Zhou Yu's disciple.
Like.
Not after all.
Even if they are real brothers, there are not many who can stand the test in the face of interests, let alone a large foundation like Jiangdong. Maybe it's nothing to the keyboard warriors of later generations, but in this world, there are only a few people who can achieve a foundation like Sun Quan's.
Zhou Yu drank some decoction, and his cough subsided. He waved his hand, and the attendants retreated again.
If he knew his fate was unlucky, maybe he would have spent more time on Sun Quan in the past, and he was more or less emotionally connected, unlike the feeling of being twisted together now.
Zhou Yu knew that Sun Quan had worked very hard.
Sun Quan also knew that Zhou Yu had seen through him.
Even many people in Jiangdong can understand it...
There is still a big gap between knowing and doing.
When Zhou Yu followed Sun Ce, did he ever think about fighting the world?
not at all.
It wasn't until Sun Ce really took Jiangdong down that the idea of fighting for the world became clear with the huge **** plate.
Back then, it was as if a teenager was joking and pointing at Jiangshan, but now...
Sun's foundation, two generations and three terms.
Sun Jian had people from Sun Jian, Sun Ce had people from Sun Ce, and Sun Quan naturally had people from Sun Quan.
A generation of emperors and courtiers.
Every leader has a trusted team, which is normal.
What is abnormal is that the time between the predecessor and the predecessor is too short, causing the predecessor to be young and the successor to be reborn.
In this way, there are actually three generations of "old, middle, and young" in Jiangdong. The old, middle, and young here do not refer to age, but the time they followed Sun.
The "old generation" includes Cheng Pu, Wu Jing, Sun Ben, Huang Gai, Zhu Zhi, etc. They have followed since the time of Sun Jian, grew stronger, and become a faction that still has strong power; Those who joined, including Zhang Zhao, Zhang Hong, Zhou Yu, Jiang Qin, Lu Fan, Dong Xi, etc., also possessed certain authority; and those with the prefix "Qing" were naturally discovered and cultivated by Sun Quan, such as Lu Su, Lu Dai, Xu Sheng, Zhu Huan, Lu Xun, etc...
Jiangdong is just that big.
Some people eat more, others eat less.
Although it is said that Sun Quan did not blindly reject the second generation of "old and middle-aged people" in employing people, but also used them, but there are still some differences. The real power and weight of power, Sun Quan tends to hand over to the "young generation". Because of the younger generation, Sun Quan considers himself one of his own, and truly belongs to Sun Quan's own strength.
In Jiangdong’s power structure, both Zhou Yu and Zhang Zhao are considered to start with “中”, so they are more of a link between the past and the future. Sun Quan’s importance to Zhou Yu probably stems from this. Zhou Yu had a high prestige in the army, and even generals with the prefix "old" were willing to obey Zhou Yu's assignment, which more or less made Sun Quan suspicious.
This kind of suspicion may be regarded as a very stupid thing in the eyes of keyboard warriors of later generations. It is necessary to accuse Sun Erlian from being stupid. The situation of wishful thinking is the same, the truth is the truth, and the reality is the reality.
Sun Quan is very happy, but at his age, how many people like to give advice? Even Zhou Yu himself came here with Sun Ce in this way? So Zhou Yu can understand Sun Quan's situation, and he also thought about making adjustments slowly. Young people, how can they know that the world is difficult if they don't knock their heads and bleed in reality?
When the bump hurts, you will know that you are good.
At that time, Zhou Yu felt that he had time...
But now, Zhou Yu has no time, so he can only pull Sun Quan to his side.
Zhou Yu has been planning the grand strategy of connecting Sichuan and Shu and controlling the middle and lower reaches of the Yangtze River for a long time.
Later generations may have been influenced by Mr. Luo, thinking that Zhou Yu picked up Zhuge's Yahui, copied Zhuge's Longzhong pair, and then came up with a dichotomous strategy, but it is not the case.
Strategy is like an article, and the world is full of copies, it just depends on who uses it well. It's like the Thirty-Six Strategies. I don't know how many people have used them throughout the ages. Could it be that they all shouted that this is their grandson's, and others can't use it? The book Thirty-Six Strategies was not written by Sun Tzu, but by an unknown person during the Ming and Qing Dynasties.
In history, there are Zhou Yu's two-point strategy in the world, and Zhuge Liang's Longzhong three-point pair.
Actually, the Longzhong right handed down by later generations may not be the real thing...
The Longzhong pair handed down by later generations is the "public version", which is the "official version" recognized by Zhuge Liang. But when did this "official version" appear? It was announced after Lao Liu received his lunch box.
The so-called real Longzhong pairing refers to the grand strategy that Zhuge Liang discussed privately with Liu Bei when he agreed to come out.
Only Zhuge Liang, the person involved, has the final say.
After all, once such a grand strategy is released publicly, it will be tantamount to playing a clear card. Therefore, the Longzhong match between Lao Liu and Xiao Zhuge at that time was absolutely impossible to make public in the early days.
At that time, old classmate Liu still had to face. How could he have the nerve to spread the word all over the world that he was going to seize the same clan's property when he didn't win Sichuan? From the perspective of the overall situation of the Three Kingdoms, Zhuge Liang's "Longzhong Dui" released later is more like a reconciliation with Jiangdong. The two offensive routes proposed are actually one for Sichuan and Sichuan, and the other for Jiangdong. Zhuge Liang's subsequent military actions also proved this point. He never thought about taking the Jingzhou route.
It is not impossible to really go. After all, the grain and grass supplies from Sichuan and Shu go down the Yangtze River to Jiangling, Jingzhou, where the current is turbulent and the speed is very fast. As the saying goes, "Among the colorful clouds of Emperor Ci Baidi, thousands of miles of Jiangling will be returned in one day." Such a golden waterway means that if Sichuan and Shu merge with Jiangdong, the consumption will be very small, whether it is transporting soldiers or transporting food and grass.
It's a pity that Chuanshu and Jiangdong have a deep blood feud and cannot cooperate, so they can only vaguely mention it. In addition, Zhuge Liang also particularly emphasized words such as "Jiangdong Sun Quan, who has lived through three generations, can be used as a aid but not a plan, and make good friends with Sun Quan". On the one hand, he told those in Sichuan and Shu who hated Jiangdong that he would make good friends with Sun Quan. The relationship is the policy set early with the first emperor, and on the other hand, it is to ease the atmosphere with Jiangdong. After all, Zhuge Liang knows in his heart that two weak people fight each other, and in the end they can only take advantage of Cao Wei.
The same is true of Zhou Yu’s two-point strategy in history. Although it is said that it appeared after the Battle of Chibi, Zhou Yu should have planned it long ago, and the same should be a conspiracy, otherwise Liu Guanzhang was still on the sidelines...
Strategy belongs to strategy, and assumptions belong to assumptions.
Whether it is a two-point strategy or a three-point strategy, it still depends on people to really turn the strategy into reality.
Such as Sun Quan.
Zhou Yu originally wanted to conquer Sichuan and Shu by himself, but now his body...
Just look at God's will!
"Brother Gongjin," Sun Quan asked respectfully, "Nowadays, there are many people in Jiangdong who say that the act of hussars is... how bad the way of sages is, and should not be used... and some people say that if you imitate the method of hussars, it is to show There is no one in Jiangdong...I don't know what brother Gongjin thinks about this matter? 』
『Some idlers gossip, don’t pay attention. Zhou Yu said slowly, "Is the text used today Jiang Dong's original creation?" Could it be that using official script now is taking advantage of Cheng Yuancen? Or is there no one in Jiangdong? Another example is that if you learn to write prose, you are imitating the two capitals and the two capitals. Is it possible that Zhang Pingzi cannot write about the capital because of Ban Mengjian? Regardless of the military system or the civil administration, don’t think that it was created by the hussars, or just ignore it. You must choose the good one and follow it, and it will benefit Jiangdong...』
Sun Quan asked with some hesitation: "Even if it's...Juetian? 』
Zhou Yu was silent for a while, then nodded, "Even Jue Tian. 』
After a short pause, Zhou Yu added, with a lot of meaning, "This is the sharpness of the sword, if you really need to use it...you will show your master's ability..."
(end of this chapter)